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A Steam Forum Engineer's Rant about the Scout Update

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:18 PM

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Stabby Mcstab 87996

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I really cant wait for the Engineer updates. The game as it is now its ludicrously unbalanced against engineers.

A single scout can now take out an entire Engineer turtle setup by himself.

Anyone else frustrated by the fact that the engineer is the weakest overall class now? You cant do ANYTHING without all of your stuff setup, and its near impossible to setup because your sentry is too slow, doesnt do enough damage, and is simply WAY to weak.

Even if the sentry was any stronger, all it would require is ONE uber.

I understand that the Engineer is supposed to be a defensive class, and isnt supposed to build in areas that are being fought over, BUT its the engineers sentry and teleporter that actually "capture" areas. An area isnt "safe" (relatively) until you know that theres a sentry and a teleporter you can use to get back there as soon as you die.

Really the only use of engineers right now is a level 3 teleporter. Sentry gets destroyed right away, followed closely by your dispenser and teleport.

I just spent ~2 minutes (out of a 5 min match) to build my stuff, only to have it ALL destroyed in a split second. This =/= balanced gameplay.

Too long, Didnt read : Engineer is gimped. Engineer update better be ????ing good.

Later on....
Quote:

Originally Posted by beowulf3

Even if the sentry was any stronger, all it would require is ONE uber.

I stopped reading right here.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM

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Doc Brown 82264

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stabby Mcstab

A single scout can now take out an entire Engineer turtle setup by himself.

How? I'm thinking this engie is either putting his sentries in very bad spots or he is assuming that a scout can attack while bonked without actually even seeing it in action.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM

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JNal8907 88208

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He needs to stop turtling that sentry.

Step 1 - See uber
Step 2 - Move
Step 3 - Rebuild

So simple.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:23 PM

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Numenor 85325

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Maybe he was up against a crack bunch of cevo-p scouts and didn't realise it.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:25 PM

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TuRbINE 79748

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Engineer is only as gimped as the player who is controlling him, IMO.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stabby Mcstab

I really cant wait for the Engineer updates. The game as it is now its ludicrously unbalanced against engineers.

A single scout can now take out an entire Engineer turtle setup by himself.

I stopped taking him seriously there. You see that bugger pistoling your sentry across the map? Type -attack into the console and come out from behind your sentry! That's the only way a lone Scout will take out a sentry as long as you're near it.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JNal8907
So simple.

That's the problem, even the simplest of tasks outsmarts the average steam forumer.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TuRbINE
Engineer is only as gimped as the player who is controlling him, IMO.

This man speaks the truth

# Feb 25, 2009 at 7:09 PM

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Cblair07 89261

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In all honesty, a sentry does not make me feel "safe" when its planted on a CP. If anything it just gives the poorly skilled pubers a false sense of security. A lone sentry is extremely easy to take out as a demoman, without the uber. Sentry "nests" are a bit tougher and require an uber without the use of good teamwork (which there is a lack of in pubs).

This steam forum poster sounds like a whiner.
If he is tired of his buildings getting destroyed from those OH SO OVERPOWERD (sarcasm) ubers. He shouldnt play engineer.

# Feb 25, 2009 at 7:11 PM

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I sigh at this...I'm not a great engineer by any means, but I can at least recognize that one uber had very well be able to take out my junk if the people have half a brain and know the game somewhat.

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