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Heavy, the "king"

#  Sep 21, 2007 at 3:06 PM
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Shishaw 77321
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Personally i find the heavy to be a great class to play, others may say, "Hey look at that newb he plays heavy!"  but dont listen to them!  the rail gun can be used at long range if you know how to use it and if someone would like to play medic with you then more power to you.  personally i think you find a good position with a scout and you can cripple an enemy team, poke and shoot is effective and it helps you manage hp.  another thing is the fact that the heavy has tons of hp so get an engineer friend and set up an hp "refuel" spot so you can keep poke and shooting
#  Oct 04, 2007 at 10:04 AM
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mrcolgate 77751
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Yes, it not newbie to play heavy. Just becaus he got a Sacsha with 200 bullets and high health. Its alteast same newbie to play Scout becau he can run fast and dont have to kill.


// Mr Colgate!
#  Oct 04, 2007 at 12:17 PM
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I dont really think its 200 bullets... Sasha (Alexander, IT F*CKING IS A GUYS NAME IN RUSSIAN!) rather does have 200 "Units" of ammunition. because at a firing rate of 10k shots per minute (approx. 167 shots per second), as you can tell, they would be gone after one and a half second.

additionally. the heavy has its weaknesses as well, and believe me, its not that few:

- A heavy constantly relies on a medic to heal him up. Rockets and grenades can strip him a fair amount of health, especially if demos and solds team up against him.
- The medic is HIGHLY vulnernable if left unattended. two rockets could instantly cut the heavy off his healing, rendering him an easy target for hi damage classes
- The heavy (for me, and many other) is a prime backstab target. usually i go for the medic behind him and then instantly for the heavy himself. a class that can take multiple rockets destroyed by a very swing of a butterfly knife... think about it.. .
- In addition to the point stated above, the heavy is extremely reliant on cover from the back. any class that is able to flank him can take him down easily. even a weak scout can approach him and pump him up to two hits before he even starts spinning his minigun.
- The low speed also makes him a prime target for any sniper. a well aimed bullet to the head and not even a medic can help him.

Playing heavy correctly is not noobish at all. it requires reaction to changes on the battlefield (Battlefield awareness, im gonna write about it one day, i SWEAR!)... actually, due to the low speed, even faster than any other class. he relies on other teammates to cover him and without a medic he is merely hi-damage cannon fodder


so much about my part on the heavy topic!
Cheers!
#  Oct 04, 2007 at 12:26 PM
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xylotism 77309
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Nah, it's not noobish if you know how to play, as with any class.

It may take less skill for aiming and firing, but it still takes skill to coordinate with your medic, avoid snipers/spies, find good placement on the field, etc.

Spy would be considered the "hardest" because there are several things you have to keep track of, sapping, backstabs, cloak, disguises, but it's no harder to play a good spy than a good heavy.
#  Oct 04, 2007 at 12:40 PM
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Mandible 77345
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i LOVE the heavy. My favourite thing is fisting peoples heads off. It works a charm, and is a great way to have fun. Not as effective as sasha obviously, but it is very good. And by the way, Sasha is an automatic shotgun, meaning it fires exactly 4 shots per "bullet". That means 800 shots, and thats a lot of killing, especially with a few fun fists to finish off.
#  Oct 04, 2007 at 12:51 PM
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xylotism 77309
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No way in hell it's an automatic shotgun. It has continuous fire, a spinning chamber, a bullet feeder. Can't be a shotgun.
#  Oct 04, 2007 at 3:38 PM
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Many years ago i have drawn my own version of TFC on paper... the hwguy there actually had a autoshot-cannon. like a belt fed minigun that fires shells. it was BIG


#  Oct 04, 2007 at 10:38 PM
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DrStalker 77697
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Quote:

Originally Posted by xylotism
No way in hell it's an automatic shotgun. It has continuous fire, a spinning chamber, a bullet feeder. Can't be a shotgun.


Why not?  if each shell is loaded with shot, instead of a bullet, it's a shotgun.  A multi-bareled full-auto externally powered shotgun, but still a shotgun!


#  Oct 04, 2007 at 11:10 PM
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xylotism 77309
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It's a minigun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minigun). Crazy people.
#  Oct 05, 2007 at 12:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrStalker
Quote:

Originally Posted by xylotism
No way in hell it's an automatic shotgun. It has continuous fire, a spinning chamber, a bullet feeder. Can't be a shotgun.


Why not?  if each shell is loaded with shot, instead of a bullet, it's a shotgun.  A multi-bareled full-auto externally powered shotgun, but still a shotgun!


A shot gun????? You've got to be kidding me....
A shot gun fires a cartridge loaded with metal pellets.
Upon firing a shotgun, the cartridge leaves the barrel and splits open in mid-air to release the metal pellets. The metal pellets are scattered(hence the scatter gun name as well) everywhere, making the shotgun a deadly but short-ranged and inaccurate weapon.


How in the world can the HW guys' minigun be a shotgun? First of all his gun doesn't even fire cartridges. It fires bullets.
Secondly, the HW guy's minigun is relatively much more accurate in firing bullets as compared to the spraying of metal pellets in a shotgun.
I think you might have confused the "200" ammo that the HW guy has. I agree with Fluffy Tiger Plushie that it is just a unit for the amount of ammo the HW guys has, not the actual number of bullets he has.
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