New SMG and Achievments

Heres an idea I had for the replacement for the snipers SMG, plus a few achievments:

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg65-e.htm

The Owen: A relic from World War 2, the Owen is a large SMG with an odd shape. The magazine is on the top of the weapon. This allows the weapon to fire faster, as gravity pushes dow on the bullets also. The magazine is also bigger, allowing twoce the number of bullets. It does %60, however, it only does %10 percent less damage on a person you have headshotted, and only %25 less on a person you have shot or meleed.

Ammo: 50/100
%15 increased firing speed
%60 less damage
or
%10 less damage on headshotted victim
or
%25 less damage on shot or meleed victim


Achievments:

Combo Breaker: Headshot a heavy medic combo with 10 seconds of each other
Slower than a speeding bullet: Headshot 5 Scouts who have been slowed down by the post BONK! effect
Bat that Back: Headshot 15 Scouts mid jump
That helmet ain't gonna save you: Headshot 25 Engineers or Soldiers
This is a knife: Kill 50 spies with your Khukri
Professional: Headshot 15 enemies in 1 Life
I'm the brain surgeon here: Headshot 3 medics who have a fully charged uber
Better luck next time you panther!: Headshot a medic while he has activated the kritzkreig
Pink Cloud of Death: Dish out 1 000 000 headshot damage

When you say "shot" do you mean with the Sniper Rifle or SMG or both?

I presume you mean Sniper Rifle. I know it's a stupid question, just checking though as you didn't make it clear.

My School wont let me see the link because of "Weapons"


As for the posted ideas....meh, I don't think they're that great (just me) they seem interesting, but not that fun and kind of confusing

Yeah, i meant just the sniper rifle.

hmmm, i like the style of the rifle, i think it goes well with the TF2 rifle.  and i'm sure snipers would love a more powerful secondary.  however, i'm not sure about the damage reduction on opponents that you recently sniped - one classic sniper tactic is to snipe somone who's at medium range, then finish them off with the smg. 

how about it does LESS damage than the normal smg, but does MORE damage against recently headshot opponnents.  this would give the sniper more direct killing power at the cost of self-defense. 

EDITED: apparently, I can't read today, the original idea would be pretty cool, but I'd probably stick with my smg.

EDIT@joebot:That would make the sniper's headshot a little too powerful imo, I mean hell, 1/2 of the classes already die from just one headshot, but if it did any significant damage than a headshot would equal death for even high hp classes (soldier, demo, overhealed others).  Sniper is already directly powerful enough, giving him a damaging weapon that can super easily finish off those he headshots once is a bad move.

EDIT2: deleted because im an idiot.

I could see joebots idea being okay if it had significantly less ammo, something like 10 a clip with 30 in reserve, and if you reload with bullets in your clip you lose those bullets.

Can someone summarize the idea for me? All these percent thingies are confuzzling me.

yeah, you make a good point chompa.  honestly, if you think about it the secondaries have been getting more and more gimmicky, so i doubt that the SMG is going to a simple damage nerf/buff. probably something like "it shoots out bananas that make your opponents slip" or something

It's a decent idea, but I want to say this-

Fuck Year Owen SMG.

(You'll know if you know me enough)

@joebot ( my computer won't let me quote for some reason ):

Yeah, I think valve hit it on the head with the blutsauger ( which I consider the secondary weapon ), which is something that aids you in a task crucial to your class, not making something hard to do easier, or trying to completely overcome your flaws.  Unfortunatly, I haven't played enough sniper to really decide what would be something that would aid him.

Personally, I'd like something like a single shot medium range rifle, with 10-15 damage at far range, 25-30 mid, and 35-40 up close, with a reload time a bit slower than a single rocket. Maybe it could bring back tagging so you could see where they were, however that might become a bit OP with a co-ordinated team.
It would be good enough for far-medium ranged attacks, but not do enough damage close range fast enough to kill a decent player.

It would help him to finish off his victims a bit, but  you couldn't directly attack, and if you missed they would have enough time to get some cover out of your way.

I'm sure that it would in some way, shape or form be OP or unbalanced, but hey, I haven't been doing this as long as chro