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#  Jun 02, 2009 at 11:51 AM
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Frohman 82941
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On tf2f servers against good scouts I get routinely destroyed. In an open map like fastlane, are there any tricks I can do as a soldier to fight scouts? Usually I get killed at fairly long-medium range by a mixture of pistol and shotgun, where my rocket launcher is useless and my shotgun doesn't help much.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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I don't play Soldier much anymore, but if you are in an open area you could try rocket-jumping toward him and raining down rockets from above.  That should close much of the distance the Scout has on you and give you a better angle to hit him with splash damage.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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As was said in a thread before this asking what they could do about scouts: "Just shoot them"

This is a multi-quote. About 10 people said it. And it's true. Get good at aiming and just shoot them.

If you've got a medic you do NOT want to rocketjump towards him because he's just sweep under you and meat-shot your good buddy. He's got to eventually come to you to do any real damage so just make sure you're good at aiming.

Oh, and lower your sens. Always.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:09 PM
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If they get too close you will cause selfdamage, often you might do more damage to yourself than you do the Scout.

But if you jump before you shoot, that selfdamage is reduced from something stupid like 100 to about 40. Either way, if you're not being buffed and the Scout lands some 80 damage on you the first shot, you'll hurt yourself for 40 trying to shoot him, then he'll finish you off with the next shot, or shots if he is retreating. It's a big problem.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:12 PM
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Juggle them.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:36 PM
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Also, don't get caught out in wide-open areas like some of those in Fastlane.  You want to be in corridors and on raised platforms, where the scout can't use his mobility to dodge your rockets.

Given players of identical skill level: scout + wide open area = scout usually wins.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:40 PM
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W/E you do do not lower your sens. You'll be a better solly with a higher sens. You only need a lower sens for scout/sniper as a solly you need to be able to turn around quickly especially if you're a pocket solly needing to defend your medic.

But scouts are a stupid class to face as any class but try your best to anticipate which way they're going before they get there...You'll also be surprised as to how useful a shotty is against a scout after you weakened him with  some splash dmg. Chances are you may need to raise your sens to be able to aim quicker with your RL/Shotty.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:43 PM
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I wanted to say that, as a primarily FaN wielding scout, i'm always hoping that a solly will rj towards me so that i can stop pistol heckling him, pop him a couple of shots in him, and completely stop his horizontal motion.  This shouldn't really be an issue for the most part, since most scouts don't bother with the FaN, but if you know he has one, don't risk it.

Also, I agree with everything that Smash said when he ninja'd me.  If you can hit him with any part of a rocket, the scout's more or less screwed unless he's on top of you already.  Oh, and when it comes to mid-long range, the normal shotty is better than both the scattergun and the rocket launcher, I'd say.
#  Jun 02, 2009 at 1:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xxsmashslayerxx
You only need a lower sens for scout/sniper as a solly you need to be able to turn around quickly especially if you're a pocket solly needing to defend your medic.

says "Liar!  Any Solly who sees that big ol' 300 in the glowy white cross is genetically compelled to rocket jump as far away from the Medic as possible."
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