Sooo, My American friends. Do you pay your income taxes?

Maybe you guys should take US History again, but you DO realize that income taxes are far more fair and efficient for taxation purposes than tariffs, which is how the government got most of its money before the Civil War?

Lawl.

How do you people expect services we all come to expect from the government WITHOUT income taxes. Tariffs won't get the job done unless you wanna borrow money into tommorow.

Stop qq'ing, pay your taxes, and die.

Thanks.

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In Fiscal Year 2008 (FY08), the U. S. Government spent $412 Billion of your money on interest payments* to the holders of the National Debt. Compare that to NASA at $15 Billion, Education at $61 Billion, and Department of Transportation at $56 Billion. -- As of May 2009, the interest expense so far this fiscal year (FY09) is $214 Billion


Source: http://www.federalbudget.com/

The federal government has been "borrowing into tomorrow" for almost a century. Most of the money that pays for services comes from corporate taxes. Which we end up paying anyway, as the price of goods is simply raised to cover the cost of these taxes. Income taxes we pay, pretty much, go straight to paying the federal deficit.

End story is that income taxes aren't necessary to pay for the necessities that we all use or others use on a certain basis, and in fact as seen above the majority of your income tax goes towards to the holders of national debt. Other taxes specifically made for those necessities already cover them and more. I remember having this argument awhile back in the SB as well. >:{

u guyz r smarts. 

As of now our money is fake anyway, so the argument should not be against Income Taxation, which is merely a segment of the larger Federal Reserve system. The Federal Reserve continues to create liquidity out of nowhere, increasing the amount of available money in the system nearly year-by-year. Since this money has no actual backing, the increase will raise inflation, continuing to devalue our currency, even though we're already at a point lower than we have been in decades. Any currency without backing and with decreasing value is essentially "fake" or worthless.
 The Federal Reserve is the real problem here, since it is a private organization that controls the entirety of our minting and liquidity creation capabilities. The Fed has already driven us into an alarming, almost Argentinian printing and national debt crisis. Unfortunately, the Fed answers to no one in any of the three branches of government, and can reject any advisory that comes from our Treasury Secretary, effectively hamstringing the taxpayers' ability to decide what we can do with our money. I'm going to provide a few links as food for thought.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1245093603.php - An article that demonstrates how the Fed increases money and what effects it has
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLCHWhmyn8w - Short CNN clip with points about how Fed chairmen are not elected officials yet have incredible authority over decisions made with the financial system
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3mEe8TH7w - Video where fmr. Chairman Greenspan admits that the Fed is above all laws in America

I understand that the original topic of this thread has to do with unconstitutionality of the Income Tax, but I'm trying to make the point that worrying about the income tax is somewhat pointless since we already have an extremely unconstitutional financial system, especially given that the IRS is part of that larger system, essentially collecting the American taxpayer funds as a way to pay off the increasing debt and loss to liquidity that we're currently experiencing.

Also, an interesting point; most employers deduct the Income Tax from your paycheck if you're a wage or salary earning employee, so how do you avoid paying the income tax on that? Unless you have external sources of income that you would normally have to claim and file on your 1040, all of the taxes you would owe are already out of your hands.

I know a profession that pays no income tax (or any tax for that matter) whatsoever.
Beggaring.

I'm willing to pay for a better government. The only problem is getting the right people to fill that government. I don't disagree with income tax, the way they spend it sometimes really pisses me off though.

In this world there is nothing that is certain except death and taxes.