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#  Oct 18, 2008 at 2:10 PM
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Whenever the update does actually come out, i'd like to know what most of you would like to see/would be balanced. particularly what some of the more experienced spies here think (wernstrum/gman/chro/dart/etc)

I can really only think of adjustments to the class off hand, but ill be thinking about actual weapons updates later.

anyways, wanted to get some real discussion going, so lets hear it.

1. Give us a better indicator of when we've bumped into someone/have otherwise been revealed.
Anything would be better than the way it is now, even if its only reflected on the character model.

2. Slight speed increase: medic speed seems fine to me, not even close to the scout speed though.

 
#  Oct 18, 2008 at 2:55 PM
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While not as experienced as your list, I have 120 hours as spy and plenty of gripes to go along with it.

  1. Speed increase would be nice, mainly so we can catch unwary pyros.
  2. Get rid of the lift animation all together.
  3. Cloak can recharge via dispensers.
  4. Cloak drains more slowly if you're not moving.
  5. Ability to change primary weapon when disguised.
#  Oct 18, 2008 at 2:55 PM
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Both and throwing knifes plz. Throwing knifes would take away the flat-line backstab skill level and so the better you could aim, the more you could kill (and I'm thinking like, headknifes == backstab, otherwise like 5 dmg)
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Two things.

1- Fix Backstabbing

2- Fix Backstabbing MORE

That's it. Anything else is extra.
#  Oct 18, 2008 at 3:02 PM
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FIX BACKSTAB.

Crouching while cloaked and not moving drains cloak bar very slowly.

That's about it, I don't know about Throwing Knives though. I'm thinking it could be OP, but it really depends on how it's executed. Because if you replace throwing knives for the Revolver, I think most Spies would go with the knives. Same with Butterfly Knife.

#  Oct 18, 2008 at 3:05 PM
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Replace butterfly knife with throwing knife.

It would have some issues like "well, now I don't spend 5 minutes chasing someone, I just chuck a knife" but there's a solution somewhere.
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Spy Update

I hate you. I gave it a 25% chance of actually Maybe being an update.
#  Oct 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM
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I'd like a speed boost to 107%, same as what the Medic has. This way if you can catch up faster with someone you're chasing, and lets you get farther behind enemy lines. Seeing how Valve already tried to 'fix' the knife twice without much success, I'm not to optimistic on the chances Valve will finally fix it. Instead, I'd rather see them change the knife so that it doesn't drop your disguise when you swing, but when you connect.
#  Oct 18, 2008 at 4:36 PM
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I'd like a speed boost to 107%, same as what the Medic has. This way if you can catch up faster with someone you're chasing, and lets you get farther behind enemy lines. Seeing how Valve already tried to 'fix' the knife twice without much success, I'm not to optimistic on the chances Valve will finally fix it. Instead, I'd rather see them change the knife so that it doesn't drop your disguise when you swing, but when you connect.
that would be great, ive had a couple times where i was killed by a sentry while trying to sap/stab because it had started targeting me before the engy was dead :/
#  Oct 18, 2008 at 4:39 PM
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BUT THAT MAKES STAB SAPPING ENGIE + LEVEL 3 WHILE ITS FACING YOU TOO EASY
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