TF2F Servers not the same as they used to be.

Months back, and I'm thinking like summer of last year and prior, I enjoyed the TF2F servers quite a bit. Many players played on it daily and a lot of us knew each other, and it was all a lot of fun. It seems now that it's just not the same, and there could be a number of things contributing to it.

Stats may not be a big deal, but I personally loved the servers with the HLstatx and it makes playing on the servers a whole lot different.

We sort of have the psychostats now, but imo, it's really not as clean or neat as the HL statsx, and the page is hardly promoted considering there's not even a link to it anywhere on the website.

I'm pretty sure we just had regular server with the hlstatsx, and that's it. We didn't have any mods and any edits to the server, and it was very nice and simple. It worked too.

Other than the stats, the servers are crashing more constantly and it's just a bit bothersome to have to deal with a crash almost daily now. I know the mods likely contribute to the crash, but how necessary are the mods. All these mods are changing what TF2 was meant to be, and how it was meant to be played. Going from removing the crits to even removing "random damage", I mean come on. Those things are mainly for the competitive environment. What normal pub players are really going to notice a difference in "random damage". I never honestly even knew anything about it until people complained, and I still don't notice a difference.

Even if there is such random damage or crits, they're in the game likely because that's how the developers felt the game should be played.

Again though, I'm not sure if anyone feels the same way about this as me in that the servers were much different last year, than they are now, but I thought I'd bring this up because I seriously enjoyed playing in the servers from Jan 2008 to about summer about that summer, but since then it's changed. I don't even play in the servers as much because of how much it's changed and how different it is now.

Also, if anyone has an answer as to why Hlstatsx was removed, I'd be curious to know why. It was fun sometimes to pop online at school and check the server information and you could see who was playing in which servers and how they were doing etc... Yet alone, the stats motivate me to play in the servers because I want to improve and I can see changes. Yes, I realize there was a slight discussion on stats in servers, but I never gave my input there, and for those who don't want to use it they don't have to, but at least they would only benefit the servers for the players who do enjoy viewing them daily.

You sound like you're from SteamPowered.

Getting killed by a random crit is not fun. Getting killed because of random luck is not fun. So we got rid of both. There are still TFTrue-less and Crit-full servers on TF2F.

Stats were removed because

1) Stats don't mean shit, really.
2) People stat-whored instead of playing the game.

And nobody can help the servers are running like crap lately.

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But the crashes are fucking annoying.

It's what the majority wanted, in regards to no-crit that is.. and only 1 of the 5 public servers has the "no random damage" TFTRUE you speak of. That server is filled all the time for a reason too, same with #1.. which is the same but without TFTRUE.

We still have just the simple no-crit 24 man #2, and the completely ridiculous server 5 with crits and 32 men involved.. both are fun still.. kinda ;p Dunno what to tell you, I personally have no problems because I'm such an advocate for the 8v8 TFTRUE/no-crit servers but I understand where you are coming from. We still have the more new-player friendly servers.. it's just people obviously would prefer 1 and 4.. with good reason imo. =]

Also, could you possibly use steam occasionally? ;p

HL stats cost money too, and yeah I kind of feel your pain too, everything was normal no one was bitching about anything. 

Sounds like you're just feeling nostalgic. Crits have been off for a long time, and you said you didn't even notice the removal of random damage.

The server crashes are being looked into. Album and I are trying to do some things to figure out why the servers keep lagging and crashing - the mods are not the reason so far as we can tell.

HLstats cost us more than anything else in TF2F, including servers, website, labor, whatever. If you want to pay for the monthly upkeep of HLstats, we'll be glad to put it back up. Psychostats does nearly the same thing as HLstats without the high cost. As far as it's integration with the site,  Redbull will be doing that when the new site is revealed - whenever that will be.

Crits and TFTrue are preference, we supply servers that offer every option you could possibly want.

ok sorry i brought it up

I forgive you.

I don't.