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#  Jan 23, 2008 at 12:57 PM
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Astraroth 80554
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i only push, never retreat. i always die in a kamakazee type death.. it doesnt really help because we always get pushed back any way.. so around what health should i retreat at? or sitiuations i should/ shoudn't reatreat?
#  Jan 23, 2008 at 1:12 PM
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Helsing7 82131
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reatreat when you are outgunned or when you know that the enemy has more health than you.  EX.  You are a heavy with 150 (half health) a soldier comes. RUN AWAY.  You might win, if you lose you have a long respawn time.  NOT WORTH IT
#  Jan 23, 2008 at 1:21 PM
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I can't think of a formula per say of when to run, just remember you're ALWAYS worth more alive than dead. if you have to go to a resupply, do it. if you need a healthpack, wait for it.

And no, kamikaze is not a viable strategy. 9 times out of 10 if you're pushing alone, you're just dying alone. Look to see who's pushing with you, and formulate your pushes/retreats off of what they're doing, what your enemy is doing, how your health is, and how many of your fellow pushing allies still draw breath.
#  Jan 23, 2008 at 2:27 PM
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Shadowfox952 81767
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Heavies fail at retreating. Just getting their fat selves to the medpack and back is a pain. Just spam the medic key until you get a medic on you lol.
#  Jan 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM
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If I don't have a medic, I really try to attack from a place where I can fall back to a health pack.

Of course, that's not always possible...  the other thing you can do is just kind of hang out at the edge of the front line and sort of play offensive defense and make sure the enemy gets shot at if they try to advance.  Then hopefully some teammates will arrive soon and you can move up with them.
#  Jan 23, 2008 at 9:24 PM
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True. Its not easy to retreat and sometimes there are not medics around. What I'll do is to pull out the short gun and run away as far as I can. Theres bound to be people who just died and respawned, coming out from the battlements or something.
#  Jan 24, 2008 at 2:19 AM
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EchelonThree 81400
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Basically, if you're anywhere under 150 health, pull back
#  Mar 11, 2008 at 9:14 PM
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Of course....because of its low speed...your chances of successfully pulling back and getting healed is lower than other classes
#  Apr 18, 2008 at 1:58 PM
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LOL!rus 79829
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Thread is still on the front page despite age, I have to agree with Echelon, if you have 150, you will make it there and back unless you are being chased.
#  Apr 24, 2008 at 4:20 AM
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I've picked up HW recently with the intention of making it another of my main classes (after medic). And, from my experience so far, picking your fights is the most important part of play; and retreating is an important part of that. Knowing when to retreat is so vital, and a real strategic decision.
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