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#  Nov 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM
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I play tf2 on the 360, and have been laughed at by pc'ers for saying that TF2 is a good title on the console..  I'm not understanding all the hate..  After all its the same game, the same strategies, the same classes, how is the pc THAT much better than the console version?  Ok, so the pc has content that consoles don't have yet, well we will be getting all the class updates and official maps.  We won't be getting all the community maps, but from what I've heard from this community, I wouldn't want to play 90% of them anyway, so are we really missing out on much there?  We do have to wait for the content and will have to pay for it, but so what?  I'd gladly pay a few bucks to satisfy microsoft if thats what it takes to get the content..  PS3 players are not even getting the content, and yet there are still people who play the game well and often on the PS3, so obviously it must be a good game, or why would people play it?  The people playing on PS3 are playing solely because they enjoy it, so then why would the pc players act so superior with their version when we are all having fun playing the same game?  Enlighten me..
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we can pick servers and join friends.

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#  Nov 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM
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So can we..
#  Nov 17, 2008 at 10:53 AM
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Plays differently for the simple fact that you have to play with a controller. I played on the 360 version for a good 8-9 months, and it's practically a different game on the PC. Snipers are really useless on the 360, even scouts. I still had great fun with it, since I did play for 8-9 months, but the lack of updates killed it for me.
#  Nov 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by larryg420
I play tf2 on the 360, and have been laughed at by pc'ers for saying that TF2 is a good title on the console..  I'm not understanding all the hate..  After all its the same game, the same strategies, the same classes, how is the pc THAT much better than the console version?  Ok, so the pc has content that consoles don't have yet, well we will be getting all the class updates and official maps.  We won't be getting all the community maps, but from what I've heard from this community, I wouldn't want to play 90% of them anyway, so are we really missing out on much there?  We do have to wait for the content and will have to pay for it, but so what?  I'd gladly pay a few bucks to satisfy microsoft if thats what it takes to get the content..  PS3 players are not even getting the content, and yet there are still people who play the game well and often on the PS3, so obviously it must be a good game, or why would people play it?  The people playing on PS3 are playing solely because they enjoy it, so then why would the pc players act so superior with their version when we are all having fun playing the same game?  Enlighten me..

Because a mouse and keyboard is exponentially better for a game like TF2 than a controller will ever be.  Due to the nature of the controller, Scouts, Snipers, and Soldiers are significantly underpowered.  In a class-based game like this, underpowered classes cause other classes to be overpowered, causing the gameplay to be different than Valve ever intended.

That is why TF2 is a better game on the PC.
#  Nov 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM
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I understand the controller changes the game somewhat, but if everyone uses a controller, its an even playing field..  As for snipers and scouts being useless, I cant compare, because i have never played the pc version, but I know people who can play effectively as sniper as well as scout..  Snipers and scouts rarely dominate the game, but the good ones are really, really  annoying..
#  Nov 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM
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So, Turbine, you're saying that if the consoles adapted an optional mouse and keyboard, the game would be equal to the pc version..  There are mods that will allow you to use mouse and keyboard on the 360, but very few people use them..
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Mainly because of the horror stories we hear from the Console players and The complete lack of balance fixes and bug fixes for the consoles.  And the fact that the times I have been on consoles all I hear is 10 year old complaining/insulting.  Console players are typically younger and have the "I can do it so I will" attitude that pisses off everyone.  But I digress.>>

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No class updates. (PC has them)
Few bug fixes. (PC bugs are patched out rapidly)
Difficulty in playing aim intensive classes. (Mouse and keyboard make life much easier)
#  Nov 17, 2008 at 11:07 AM
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Mainly because of the horror stories we hear from the Console players and The complete lack of balance fixes and bug fixes for the consoles.  And the fact that the times I have been on consoles all I hear is 10 year old complaining/insulting.  Console players are typically younger and have the "I can do it so I will" attitude that pisses off everyone.  But I digress.>>

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