Rejoice!

I don't know if it matters to you, but there are still some wacky graphical errors on the map, like in the windows like I screenshotted earlier, and also on the left side of the room where the final cap point is, you have a ton of monitors there and the metal case that encases the monitors reflect some strangeness. I tried to screenshot it, but apparently the multi-core engine doesn't allow proper screenshots... just like mat queue mode 2 did... lame.

Icarus makes amazing maps, but even better he listens to the players. Less than 24 hrs he has gotten rid of the setup gates. ICARUS YOU ARE THE MAN

I counted a bit more like 48 hours but I could be horribly wrong.
In other news, ICARUS YOU ARE THE MAN.

This is a great CP map, but I noticed that the progress from each cap moves slowly because they are separated by chokepoints.

From mid to second there are the doors on either side, and from second to last the confined hallways.

What kills it IMO are the doors and interior for second, a successful push onto that cap normally needs a charge, which slows down the game significantly. Both teams will camp the doors until they get their charge and attack, whoever comes out on top will either cap second or cap mid. It seems easier for the other team to defend 2nd because they have easy access to the above level, and I've seen mid go back and forth because of this.

Not that I am biased for slippery-slope style maps, it's just that the action parts of the map are confined to when the Medic has charge. Otherwise making advances don't normally end well.

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Interesting. What would you propose to free up the chokepoints?

Having the one door on the right leading directly to the cap is fine. You should try opening up the sides for flanking.

I can imagine everything on the left side, the turbines, stairs, and catwalks leading to the upper area above the cap being outside. This would open up the area for deathmatching, attackers can sit on the catwalks and take advantage of the med healthpack out there. It also create a substantial sniper line for the defenders if they control it, they can look from that side into the far right entrance to mid. Right now it seems much easier to go that way than the short corner by the crate, because that can be easily spammed out by the other team. This creates a dangerous entryway for both passages for the team leaving mid.

Although, obviously, that would be a lot of work. It's fine the way it is, no serious improvements would be made by making these changes

For the record, I disagree with everything Nekped said.

I look at this map from a completely competitive standpoint, so take what you will...

But the defending team can either defend the point from the bottom or the top. This means that the defenders have to watch from the floor for a push or both entry ways to top as well as the entry on top from the flank where Scouts can get up from last cap. The attackers have many vantage points to enter as it's unlikely that they will be able to spread their forces between both doors realistically, which can be a strategy on it's own... so the attackers can choose to come out from the bottom and jump up to the second floor to kill the enemies, or take the long way, which in itself is a commitment, and go to the left door and up the stairs. The defenders can be caught off guard with either path if they are not prepared, the attackers can get destroyed if they push poorly. In fact, I think the choke points before and after the points have very little to do with the push on the actual push.

Ugh, I hope this all made sense. Basically, I like the map how it is. But I've been known to change my mind quickly...

Yeah, I don't have any suggestions for improving the map.

I think the room next to the #2 points should be better utilized. The one w/ the turbines. Maybe consider adding some more pathways, perhaps move the CP to that room? Maybe consider an upstairs entrance to the 2nd point from the outside?