support engineers

i'm sure that we've all played a round of Dustbowl on a disorganized public server, one in which half the red team rolls Engineer.  then we have a whole mess of level one sentries at the front with all the engineers bickering over the metal, and they soon get wiped out, the first point is capped, and we scramble to defend second.  then the noobs decide that playing engineer sucks, so then they all go as soldier or pyro, and we wind up with one engineer on a 24-player map (two if we're lucky), and once again, the point is capped tout suite. 

of course, the obvious answer is - have a handful of players go as engineer, and stick with it the whole round (and if your sentry gets blown up, just build it again, don't ragequit your class). 

but then i came up with another idea - what if you have 2 or 3 guys go as core engineers (the guys who will be in charge of sentries and other buildings the entire round) but have 1 or 2 other players act as "support engineers" - engineers who don't set up any buildings of their own, but help the other engineers build stuff, maybe even venturing out into the battlefield once the gates open to pick up weapons while the core engineers stay safe and protect their equipment.  i wouldn't recommend this for the entire round, just until the core engies get their teleports and dispensers up, and their sentries at least to level 2, which can happen very quickly with a couple extra engies working on them.  then the support engineers would just change classes to skirmisher or support characters such as snipers, spies, pyros or scouts, which won't really be that useful during the initial uber-rush where it takes medics with full uber combined with heavies, soldiers and demos to hold back/ break up the ubers. 

i wouldn't reccommend this on ctf maps, or in rounds where you have less than, oh say, 20 players, but otherwise, it might work...

I think that this is always nice, Engi's working together, I think with everyone as an Engi in setup, you could potentially set up all Dispensers and Sentries very quickly and then switch to whatever class.  But, it's not realistic.

During some setups I go engineer and just donate my wrench to them, or like if I got the Spy sappin sentries I'll go engie and take the sapper off.

I think that's a bit more useful, unless you mean after a while the other engineers will also build their stuff, once the cores is up.

I support this Idea as long as the engineer squad dosnt exceed 3 sentries in an area of 10 feet near each other, because That is extremely hard to get by and makes the game less fun for everybody. Especially if the Sentries are Tier 3 (hell a bunch of Tier 1s is a B**** to get by)

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You kidding? I love those things. One ubered demo tossing stickies into the middle and ka-blooey!

That ubered medic won't get anywhere if there are 3 engineers ganging him up (unless that medic is very pro) then with that medic being beaten to death by 3 wrenches, the sentries can chew up the demo

My name is Hellblazer and I support this message.

But only 3 engineers MAXIMUM on dustbowl. Help me build then gtfo and play <insert class here>, unless you are one of the three engies.

i tend to care more about the other persons sentry rather than my own. i think something is wrong with me.

I don't know how helpful this is with the first capture point due to respawn time and lack of teleporter exits (we are talking public servers, right??)
However, as soon as first point is capped I always switch to engineer and get the other engineer's sentry up to level 2 or 3. Then I'll run back to spawn for class change and start sapping the other team's crap. I am sure there is some kind of kharmic justice in that approach.

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I Support!

I saw something similar on the Steam forums, it's really silly how most engys don't help each-other.